Our coutry's government has to be the laughing stock of the world right now..........
what kind of government actually suspends parliament??
incase anyone doesn't know what is going on... the opposition, the liberals, and 2 other parties, NDP and Bloc Quebecois, are trying to get together to form a coalition government. Our current government, the conservatives, do not have a majority, so the coalition would basically have enough power to overthrow anything they want to pass, and would essentially run the country.
I personally am not a fan of Stephen Harper, but I think a coalition that is in with a seperatist party is a big mistake. And number two..... what right do they think they have to do this without our vote???
The whole purpose of democracy is for the people to choose the government. Not to have some nikempoop who is afraid of losing his job running the country. If they don't like the current government... then call another election...
Even though its been only 7 weeks, i think if they through out the liberal leader and got someone else, then maybe the results would be different.
anyway...
the only thing i have to say is our government right now just seems like a mickey mouse circus.
what kind of government actually suspends parliament??
incase anyone doesn't know what is going on... the opposition, the liberals, and 2 other parties, NDP and Bloc Quebecois, are trying to get together to form a coalition government. Our current government, the conservatives, do not have a majority, so the coalition would basically have enough power to overthrow anything they want to pass, and would essentially run the country.
I personally am not a fan of Stephen Harper, but I think a coalition that is in with a seperatist party is a big mistake. And number two..... what right do they think they have to do this without our vote???
The whole purpose of democracy is for the people to choose the government. Not to have some nikempoop who is afraid of losing his job running the country. If they don't like the current government... then call another election...
Even though its been only 7 weeks, i think if they through out the liberal leader and got someone else, then maybe the results would be different.
anyway...
the only thing i have to say is our government right now just seems like a mickey mouse circus.
Matt
Regardless of my personal disdain for Stephanne Dion (sadly, my MP since Chrétien got him into politics) and the laughable idea of having him as PM, even for a few months, every single point brought up by the current administration is moot.
Our parliamentary system works in a very simple way. We all elect an MP in our county, and the party with the most MPs forms the majority. We don't vote for a Prime Minister, and we don't vote for a party, regardless of what motivates our choice when we pick our MP. As simple mathematics would have it, while the Conservative Party currently has more MPs than any other party alone, they have less than this coalition does.
Inside the parliament, in order to govern, the administration needs the confidence of the majority. The current administration has lost this confidence after the economical statement that, let's face it, was a mockery and an insult.
To ensure stability, but most importantly continuity, the core of the British parliamentary system, the mechanics in place anticipated this kind of scenario and included the possibility of an alternative administration within a single mandate. Keep in mind, the British system was always weary of absolute democracy and the fashions of the moment. It would therefor be entirely possible for any party to form a coalition with anyone else, so long as it promised to be viable. The Governor General, acting Chief of State, has the final say on whether or not it's an acceptable alternative.
Of course, this new administration will face the music as soon as elections are called, either at the end of the mandate or when it is no longer functional. The population always ends up choosing, but one mandate at a time, and chances are the opposition will pay the price for this coalition when the time to dance comes again.
As for the separatists, that's Harper propaganda at its best. I laugh at the idea of Duceppe sitting at the same table as Dion, but the Bloc will not be part of the administration. The only reason they signed was to fill the condition that requires the alternative coalition to be viable and stable for a fixed amount of time, hence why they promised to support it for 18 months.
When Paul Martin was Prime Minister, he didn't have the majority, and both Stockwell Day of the Alliance, and later Stephen Harper, approached the Bloc to form a similar coalition to remove Martin from office, should the vote of no confidence fail. What was good yesterday should still be good today, considering the rules haven't changed. Dion made a deal with the Devil, to quote Harper and Flarherty, but Harper himself didn't see it that way when he had a chance to overthrow Martin without calling an election.
The fact of the matter is that this coalition is entirely possible and legal. It is also entire legal for Harper to put the parliament in lockdown, and he has decided to do so to avoid the vote fo no confidence. Just like the coalition, he will have to face the electorate when election time comes again, and justify this choice. The Governor General was right to accept his request. Again, for a question of continuity, from her point of view it makes more sense to close it for two months and wait for a vote of confidence on the budget when everyone has calmed down.
It most certainly is a circus, and the parties are responsible for this. They've been very active at polarizing the vote in the past decade, ever since the Alliance and the Progressist Conservative party merged to form the PCC. And it's not likely going to change after the lockdown. In fact, they're all going to be very active during the holidays on the propaganda machine and discrediting both option until we are all alienated from one another. Divide to conquer is something Harper has done ever since he won his nomination.
Our parliamentary system works in a very simple way. We all elect an MP in our county, and the party with the most MPs forms the majority. We don't vote for a Prime Minister, and we don't vote for a party, regardless of what motivates our choice when we pick our MP. As simple mathematics would have it, while the Conservative Party currently has more MPs than any other party alone, they have less than this coalition does.
Inside the parliament, in order to govern, the administration needs the confidence of the majority. The current administration has lost this confidence after the economical statement that, let's face it, was a mockery and an insult.
To ensure stability, but most importantly continuity, the core of the British parliamentary system, the mechanics in place anticipated this kind of scenario and included the possibility of an alternative administration within a single mandate. Keep in mind, the British system was always weary of absolute democracy and the fashions of the moment. It would therefor be entirely possible for any party to form a coalition with anyone else, so long as it promised to be viable. The Governor General, acting Chief of State, has the final say on whether or not it's an acceptable alternative.
Of course, this new administration will face the music as soon as elections are called, either at the end of the mandate or when it is no longer functional. The population always ends up choosing, but one mandate at a time, and chances are the opposition will pay the price for this coalition when the time to dance comes again.
As for the separatists, that's Harper propaganda at its best. I laugh at the idea of Duceppe sitting at the same table as Dion, but the Bloc will not be part of the administration. The only reason they signed was to fill the condition that requires the alternative coalition to be viable and stable for a fixed amount of time, hence why they promised to support it for 18 months.
When Paul Martin was Prime Minister, he didn't have the majority, and both Stockwell Day of the Alliance, and later Stephen Harper, approached the Bloc to form a similar coalition to remove Martin from office, should the vote of no confidence fail. What was good yesterday should still be good today, considering the rules haven't changed. Dion made a deal with the Devil, to quote Harper and Flarherty, but Harper himself didn't see it that way when he had a chance to overthrow Martin without calling an election.
The fact of the matter is that this coalition is entirely possible and legal. It is also entire legal for Harper to put the parliament in lockdown, and he has decided to do so to avoid the vote fo no confidence. Just like the coalition, he will have to face the electorate when election time comes again, and justify this choice. The Governor General was right to accept his request. Again, for a question of continuity, from her point of view it makes more sense to close it for two months and wait for a vote of confidence on the budget when everyone has calmed down.
It most certainly is a circus, and the parties are responsible for this. They've been very active at polarizing the vote in the past decade, ever since the Alliance and the Progressist Conservative party merged to form the PCC. And it's not likely going to change after the lockdown. In fact, they're all going to be very active during the holidays on the propaganda machine and discrediting both option until we are all alienated from one another. Divide to conquer is something Harper has done ever since he won his nomination.
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