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Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 02, 2008 • 9:12 pm
by freepizza
Dilsey Pope was a black woman who was freed from slavery. She paid for her husbands freedom, and to circumvent laws that would force her husband to relocate to a free state, kept him as a slave. Dilsey Pope and her husband got into an argument that was so bad that she sold her husband to a white neighbor. When they reconciled with each other, the neighbor refused to sell her husband back, and she had no legal recourse as the state didn't recognize the marriage...
That's rough stuff!
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 02, 2008 • 10:22 pm
by Jim the old guy
Well, everything is NOT black and white, so to speak. On a side note, my wife and I saw an opera last month entitled Margaret Garner (written about 5 years ago). It concerned the same subject: slavery. It was a tragic opera that had us totally mesmerized.
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 03, 2008 • 3:59 pm
by Bafitis
Changes have to start somewhere with someone...
A man once said, "Don't try to be a Great Man, just be a Man and let History make its own decisions"...
As for W. Bush, I don't think History is going to be very kind...
As for the Dilsey Pope story, tragic stuff indeed... Just goes to show how far we've come in just a short time...
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 03, 2008 • 7:47 pm
by Jen
Bafitis wrote:
As for the Dilsey Pope story, tragic stuff indeed... Just goes to show how far we've come in just a short time...
HA!!! Sure...whatever.
Gay is the new black.
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 03, 2008 • 8:21 pm
by Bafitis
Jen wrote:Gay is the new black.
But they aren't being beaten in a cotton field and chained to a wall at night either...
Just because people are arguing the right to let them Marry doesn't make them the "New Black"... As long as they are persistent the government will eventually back down... Not that it should have to be a fighting game in the first place though...
I for one don't agree with the way the states and government are handling all this Marriage BS... They wanna Marry, let 'em... It doesn't do anybody any harm... All it does is ruffle the feathers of those who are scared of something Different...
Jen wrote:Bafitis wrote:
As for the Dilsey Pope story, tragic stuff indeed... Just goes to show how far we've come in just a short time...
HA!!! Sure...whatever.
How can you say that??? In just over a month we are going to have a Black Man sitting in the Oval Office... If that isn't progress given this country's 250 year history, I don't know what is...
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 03, 2008 • 8:51 pm
by Jen
Death threats, racially motivated killings and rampant discrimation. etc. We should be beyond this. Progress, yes, but nowhere near enough.
The board is yours......
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 03, 2008 • 9:02 pm
by Bafitis
Jen wrote:Death threats, racially motivated killings and rampant discrimation. etc. We should be beyond this. Progress, yes, but nowhere near enough.
The board is yours......
I won't argue you that at all... We should indeed be beyond it... I don't think the Human Race will ever see a day where it doesn't Discriminate in one way or another... I just don't think the Human Race is capable of that kind of Unity...
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 03, 2008 • 11:10 pm
by freepizza
On one of my shows I had a disagreement with my co-host about why I though the united states should legalize gay marriage. Though I think his arguments were flawed from a American government stand point. He wasn't motivated by hatred or anger, and that is always a good thing.
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 04, 2008 • 4:41 pm
by Bafitis
freepizza wrote:On one of my shows I had a disagreement with my co-host about why I though the united states should legalize gay marriage. Though I think his arguments were flawed from a American government stand point. He wasn't motivated by hatred or anger, and that is always a good thing.
Always a good thing indeed... Did you compliment your co-host/friend for the way he stated his objections??? People like your friend should be praised...
Too Much is motivated by Hatred these days and in days of old... Hatred is the one Constant you will find in Human History... In one way or another Hatred is a root of just about anything in History...
Crusades, hatred between religious factions... Any War, hatred for one side or the other stemmed it... And just about any other Achievement in Human History, one way or another it is most likely Hate Driven...
Though it may be taught in a bright light as a good thing, you can most likely find Hatred somewhere...
Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 04, 2008 • 6:30 pm
by Demonlawyer
Oh bugger, I got drunk, hit the wrong button and everything I typed disappeared......

Re: Dilsey Pope
Posted: December 05, 2008 • 12:23 am
by freepizza
Bafitis wrote:freepizza wrote:On one of my shows I had a disagreement with my co-host about why I though the united states should legalize gay marriage. Though I think his arguments were flawed from a American government stand point. He wasn't motivated by hatred or anger, and that is always a good thing.
Always a good thing indeed... Did you compliment your co-host/friend for the way he stated his objections??? People like your friend should be praised...
Too Much is motivated by Hatred these days and in days of old... Hatred is the one Constant you will find in Human History... In one way or another Hatred is a root of just about anything in History...
Crusades, hatred between religious factions... Any War, hatred for one side or the other stemmed it... And just about any other Achievement in Human History, one way or another it is most likely Hate Driven...
Though it may be taught in a bright light as a good thing, you can most likely find Hatred somewhere...
Well as my friend and I are Christians doing a Christian show, hate should never come into the equation.