A real life Tex Mystery?

This was originally intended as a response to Lestat in the Anybody there thread, but I decided to give it a subject because I got to typing and didn't stop, and was able to put a lot of my thought to text. This thread is not to meant to start or spark a heated emotional debate. I know we're all adults with our own viewpoints, but I'd like to see some of your own on these issues ... and I know we can keep it intellectual or at the very least non combative. Okay, so here's the original post ... I was answering Lestat's question if it what was the problem with the elites .. was it them or were they a product of their environment, I believe

From the little that I know, these rich and powerful elites didn't get to where they were by working hard and being intelligent to gather these riches and powers. They were born into it. If you're a Rockefeller and you're in the Bilderberg group, you may have went to school. And a very nice college. The best there is no doubt. But you were groomed to do that from a young age, not because it was your choice in the matter. If you're born into that family you're not rich ... you have wealth. And that's a whole other ballpark from rich. The ambitions of the originators of the illuminati and many generations in have passed their wishes on generation to generation and as each generation of child comes through instantaneously being wealthy, not knowing what it's like to have to work and build from the ground up. It's almost like in some sense when it comes to the real important people of the world, hereditary rule, not individual merit seems to be the norm. We haven't really advanced out of true hereditary rule. Not where it matters. Monarchies aren't always lined with good people, and history can tell you that.

That's not to say that some that are involved at the highest levels of influence didn't get there by themselves, and maybe even a few of the children from families of wealth took it upon themselves to push their education and morality above everything else, and are inherently good. Maybe the families teach their children ethics, and promote the value of life. But in an atmosphere of power growing up, it would be very... VERY easy for someone to become comfortable and use that kind of power not for the greater good, but for their own personal selfish reasons. Would that be the kind of person you want to represent your species in a moment of crisis at the very highest sphere of influence?

It'd be nice if we could vote who decides our fate, but our current system is just the little stage play the highest circle of influence uses to control us into thinking we're in control. Give us the illusion of freedom, and then giving us a very very long leash. But don't be fooled, I believe we're still wearing that leash, and if we get too far ahead, they might have to tug on the leash a bit to get our attention. As a matter of fact, I'd say they've already tugged. This new healthcare bill in the US ... the first step in setting the framework for a changing government structure. And this thing is going to pass. Somehow. Someway. Either it will pass or the big guys go back to the table and start over. And there are too many people who are starting to go "Hey wait a second ... what's going on here ... ", so they can't really afford for that to happen. If it does pass, it's only the beginning. Slowly but surely local and state authorities are going to lose more and more of their authority to federal until they're all but absorbed into the new system, with set policies and procedures that are all federally mandated.

Alex Jones would have you get a gun, stock up and prepare for the war. And I agree, he comes off too much as a fear monger, but I think he's just reacting as any human would react to being stripped of their freedoms and being told things are not the same as the people who came before us made it and intended to be. When a group of rich and elite decide that a countries way that it governs itself isn't "secure" enough, or as "accessible to them" as they'd like, actively going about to try to manipulate conditions to change these things seems to me like a declaration of war on our country and what it stands for. So I understand his message ... but if he came at it with a different approach .. instead of playing darth vaders imperial march at the beginning of his show and having the casual listener roll his eyes, and shut it off ... he may reach more people with information that would be vital for everyone to at least read and make thier own decisions on.

I have nothing against any other country in the world, but I love mine, and the things that we've done here. The system we've made under our constitution. But it's like ... they're saying modern times have kicked in and the constitution is just a piece of paper ... haven't you seen in the movies what it was like in a police state? Probably in more than one film. Just a small way of conditioning you for the future. So you know what to expect.

But lots of people of gone vocal about this because we want to incite the reaction in people to make them think differently than the way they've been conditioned. We want to invoke the same response that starfleet got out of Hue, the borg they captured. We want them to look at us questioningly and ask ... "Resistance is ... not futile?"

But first, those that don't even know there is something encroaching on the way we have lived the past 200 or so years need to know what is changing, how it's happening, and why. They need to be told about the North American Union. They need to know about why the dollar is being devalued ... purposefully .. they need to know why good people like Ron Paul put forth legislation to audit the federal reserve, (WHICH IS NOT PART OF OUR GOVERNMENT, but runs all of our money. Tricks most americans because the word Federal in their title.) and it just seems to be yawned off. They need to know about the transcontinental highway, where it's going to be laid, it's purpose. If you're an American, and you took it upon yourself to look at the raw facts of these things all brought together, our massive society is slowly being poked and prodded and herded into an atomosphere that will already be willing to accept a merger to become the North American Union. You already have the European Union, and they have their fingers already trying to establish the locks and ties they need for a Asian union. And there is where I get mixed emotions.

Every fiber of my being tells me all this stuff happening around us in the world right now is dead wrong. That devaluing our country and it's structure for the benefit of global governance shouldn't even be something that would be a consideration. But I was born and raised in Ohio of America. I loved my childhood. Every bit of it. I may not have made the best decisions in the world growing up, and I moved a lot, but everywhere I moved the same thing was educated in us as we grew ... we were free to do whatever we wanted in our lives. Our only limitations were the law. But it was a fair and just law that we as a people decided. To have someone come along and change things to make our place in the world more malleable to make it fit in the grand scheme of things seems wrong ...

But in order for us to advance as a society .. to reach out into the stars ... to go beyond our planet and reach our full intellectual potential ... something like this has to happen. So personally I'm torn on what to do, or what I should think. And then it all boils down to who's controlling this whole merger ...

The rich and elite .. and then you get the question crop up again. Can we trust them to do things for the benefit of humanity, or not? Do you trust them? Why should we? They don't share their plans with us ... we have to surmise by the trail of already established corporate infrastructure that has already been set-up what their plans are. We get our information from looking very well at what they can't cover up. All of sudden the world is becoming more and more like a Tex game every day.

Sorry for being in rant mode.. heh heh heh. Feel free to respond even if your views differ. I've never really gotten a feel for what people think about this personally. I want to hear even views that say it's all a bunch of hogwash .. because negative or positive I really believe that this is an issue, and not a non issue, and should be handled as such. Not summarily dismissed as conspiracy theorist rhetoric.
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Being a rant, i'd like to ask a couple questions to be sure what you're saying if that's all right.

So you're against globalization?

Also, are you saying that passing the health care bill will begin the downfall of the USA? If so, i'd like to understand just how such a thing could be possible.

Being an American who's lived in Australia most of his life, i find the political and social climate of the current US fascinating, but at the same time am glad i'm elsewhere (and not just cause when i moved back, i found i couldn't connect with anyone over there anymore). =/
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Sorry I took so long to respond.

I wanted to respond to what you said about the elite being born into these families.

I want to take my point one step farther, which is that I don't believe humans are inherently evil. There is no human nature.

Those elites, when born are a clean slate.... they didn't have evil genes and the quest for power born into their genetics. It came from their environment.

Take that baby as soon as it is born and put him in an African Tribe or with a family in Communist China and he would be a completely different person.

Our environment is screwed up and that is what needs to be changed.... the monetary system creates this greed. People need to evolve and realize that everyone is not that much different than each other.

Some would argue survival of the fittest in nature.... but this is a product of scarcity. With our capabilities of technology, there is no reason why anything has to be scarce. Not to mention the fact that the monetary system creates false scarcity in order to keep perceived value up.

Again... I think you saw the original Zeitgeist and not the second one. Watch the new one... it is much better.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 163636261#
This is a really good orientation to watch too.... a little dry and boring but very informative.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joo ... ?Itemid=50
This is a very good lecture by the guy that wrote zeitgeist.

Anyway, enjoy and let me know what you think.
Matt
First off a little bit about the health bill to answer atomicvegetable ... to me little things like this which are hidden in the bill seem to be proof of slowly but surely setting up structures for purposes other than health.

http://www.infowars.com/obama-health-bi ... -accounts/

There were a few other articles that explained some of the other things that were coming with this bill that the average american didn't know. infowars should link ya. At first glance this site looks like Weekly World News online, only you'll find, as I have, that if you trace the stories they post back to their original place, you'll find a lot of them are already out in the media .. buried in the back of the paper, or in some elitist magazine. This is just a webpage that pieces a lot of the puzzle pieces together into an understanding of certain conspiracy elements. Sometimes the pieces look like they should fit or don't, and vice versa. If anything, I find the site entertaining to read from time to time, and when I see something that particularly disgusts me, I do research on it to see if it's true or not.

Lestat, although I can almost be certain I'll be able to tell you I have seen this addendum to zeitgeist, I'll check the links out in a bit when my internet connection gets faster. Seems to go in and out every few hours. AT&T is ass for internet. The reason I remember it was it was like some guy with a mustache, and he went through the whole "What the world would be without money, and how we get there" speech, with like a metropolis city behind him while he spoke ... or something .. my memory might be of something else, but either way I "Should" watch it again, just so I can run my opinion by ya. Although I can tell you right now, there will probably be a lot I agree with. To what you said about people not being born evil, I totally agree. It IS the environment of power that they grow up in that makes them that way. When I watch this again, I'm gonna wanna ask the question ... "How are we going to get everyone in America, much less the entire world to go without currency?"

But in the end, I really just like to fancy myself a small prophet of sorts. I point everyone to the conspiracy so that they at least have access to what is known and what isn't. Everyone should formulate their own opinions based on the evidence presented, not just dismissing offhand. I think if we don't keep our government honest with these questions and just assume that it's all oiled up and running nicely, we're asking for them to do something behind all of our backs and screw the entire populace. Maybe they aren't ... but if they aren't answering a few questions and explaining a few things wouldn't hurt them either. After all, it is US they represent.
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They always hide things in bills, no matter what kind of bill it is... That is how they please the big contributors to their campaigns... They're called "Ear Marks" and are considered "Pork Spending"...

You could have a Crime Bill and someone will hide something like "Highway Expansion" in it and once it is passed the 600,000 dollars that was under Highway Expansion will go to that Senator's state or Congressman's state...

Ear Marks are something that both McCain and Obama campaigned against and neither have shown an effort to stop it... McCain is as guilty as any other Senator when it comes to sneaking in this or that and Obama is as guilty as any other president for signing off on those bills that are stuffed with the Ear Marks...

It's all just a big game to them... Who can get away with hiding the most useless junk...
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The orientation deals with a lot of the ideas.

I found that video... even though it is just a power point presentation with someone talking over top of it, much better than the addendum movie.

Even better is the live lecture for Zday 2009. It is the orientation along with Peter Joseph talking live and a few things added that are very informative.

Also a question and answer period.

Just look up zday 2009 and watch that and the new lecture I mentioned from Nov 15th. I posted the link for that one above.
Matt